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popechuck
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posted September 27, 2001 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popechuck   Click Here to Email popechuck     Edit/Delete Message
In considering where I'll be moving after my military service is over, I've begun looking at Canada as a possibility. I'm just curious if anyone from the UBB lives there, or could shed some light on our "Dark, Mysterious Neighbors to the North"
Mostly I'm researching economy, job market, cost of living, availability of the Simpsons, etc...

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Jesse Dangerously
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posted September 27, 2001 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jesse Dangerously   Click Here to Email Jesse Dangerously     Edit/Delete Message
Jobs are around, but rarely great.
Economy unexciting.
Cost of living varies. Vancouver and Toronto can be terribly expensive, I'm told. Nova Scotia is okay if you go suburban.
Simpsons plays 24 hours just like everywhere else in the world. ^_^

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Sarcasma
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posted September 27, 2001 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sarcasma   Click Here to Email Sarcasma     Edit/Delete Message
Well, economy and job market are, as everywhere, extremely changeable and susceptible to trends. However, yes, it's generally madly expensive to live in Vancouver or Toronto (mind, I'm in Toronto right now and I seem to be coping).

This a massive, vast, huge, big country. If you hate one bit of it you're likely to love another bit of it. And hey, for now at least, health care and stuff.

What field would you be working in?

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Wraith
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posted September 27, 2001 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wraith   Click Here to Email Wraith     Edit/Delete Message
Field is definitely key.

Ottawa is pretty decent, as long as you don't mind hearing about politics daily. It has a good public transit system, and lots of bike paths. And everything is generally available.

Kingston is smaller, but nice, public transit has not yet been tried. General availibility has not yet been determined. Very much a university town.

Maritimes are nice if you enjoy a more laid back atmosphere.

Winters vary from almost no snow and warm, to much snow and cold. Summers also vary between comfortable and bloody hot.

I like it.

-Wraith

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jarbabyj
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posted September 27, 2001 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jarbabyj   Click Here to Email jarbabyj     Edit/Delete Message
AND...

their KitKat bars are made from MILK chocolate.

jarbaby

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Cheatara
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posted September 27, 2001 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheatara   Click Here to Email Cheatara     Edit/Delete Message
Finally, someone to tell me the difference between US kit kats and UK(and apparently canada) Kit Kats...I mean besides one is made by hershey and the other by nestle.

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ThePet
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posted September 27, 2001 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePet   Click Here to Email ThePet     Edit/Delete Message
Don't forget that Canada is more north than Michigan.

And Michigan is too cold.

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Brunswik Mcbutterpants
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posted September 27, 2001 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brunswik Mcbutterpants   Click Here to Email Brunswik Mcbutterpants     Edit/Delete Message
The big question is -DO THEY HAVE MILK IN A BAG?????!!!!

I hear drinking age is 18

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Y2Karen
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posted September 27, 2001 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Y2Karen   Click Here to Email Y2Karen     Edit/Delete Message
Oh crap. Here I was, blissfully NOT thinking of milk in a bag for the past two months, and here it is again. Portable udders. Gross.

Um, drinking age is 19. They never check IDs. I'd live in Vancouver. But I hear Toronto is swell, too. That's my two centeroonies.

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Cheatara
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posted September 27, 2001 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheatara   Click Here to Email Cheatara     Edit/Delete Message
Every time I've went to windsor to drink, which of course hasn't happened in over a year now, they checked my ID.

(I know, it's pathetic, but it's a common Michigan thing to do.)

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That Darn Hippopotamus
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posted September 27, 2001 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for That Darn Hippopotamus   Click Here to Email That Darn Hippopotamus     Edit/Delete Message
All the money is different. Pennies are called centeroonies.

Eh-dited. Get it? Because Eh? Ah, I don't even know what I'm talking aboat.

[This message has been edited by That Darn Hippopotamus (edited September 27, 2001).]

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Brunswik Mcbutterpants
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posted September 27, 2001 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brunswik Mcbutterpants   Click Here to Email Brunswik Mcbutterpants     Edit/Delete Message
yeah good stuff!

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Enjinno9
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posted September 27, 2001 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enjinno9   Click Here to Email Enjinno9     Edit/Delete Message
I just met a girl from Ontario who calls winter hats "tooks". It's great to hear her talk...by the way, if she's a run-of-the-mill Canadian, it means you have to a)love hockey, b) think America sucks pretty hard, and c) call bathrooms "washrooms". But she's cool, so I guess it's all right, eh?

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Wraith
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posted September 27, 2001 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wraith   Click Here to Email Wraith     Edit/Delete Message
Its spelt touque. or something like that. And it keeps your ears warm, very important that, otherwise they turn black and fall off. I would also like to point out that Michigan is further north than some parts of Canada.

They have milk in bags and boxes, and if you look hard enough you might find bottles. (I've found one, once, and I don't remember where, oh well, not important)

Drinking age is 19 in most of Canada and 18 in Quebec and a couple other provinces I think.

Hockey loving is not necessary, but it helps to like some sort of winter sport when you can play it for 4 months of the year. The America sucking part isn't mandatory. And it doesn't matter what you call a washroom/bathroom/WC it still has the same basic function.

-Wraith.

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Arwon
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posted September 27, 2001 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arwon   Click Here to Email Arwon     Edit/Delete Message
*Hops around, waving hand in the air*

Oooh! Oooh!

Don't call 'em Newfies. Newfoundlanders that is. Don't call them Newfies.

Jesse told me so.

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Wondrous Fnordia
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posted September 27, 2001 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wondrous Fnordia   Click Here to Email Wondrous Fnordia     Edit/Delete Message
I might look like a Michigander, but I'm actually a Born-Again Canadian.

Really.

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Sarcasma
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posted September 27, 2001 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sarcasma   Click Here to Email Sarcasma     Edit/Delete Message
Re: climate:

Also, keep in mind that in a country that size you get as many climatic variations as you get in the States - so, sure, it's effin cold in winter in Toronto and Winnipeg, but it pretty much never freezes where I'm from in Victoria. Get it? No snow. None. Occasional rain, that's it. Sunny.

Sorry, pet peeve. Carry on.

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Klaatu
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posted September 28, 2001 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Klaatu   Click Here to Email Klaatu     Edit/Delete Message
Well in Vancouver last year we probably got about three inches of snow total. Usually winters are pretty wet, and summers fairly nice. A friend on mine just got a nice sized two-bedroom apartment right on the beach for about a thousand a month. It gets cheaper though, the farther away you are from town. Jobs are not too difficult to find. My aunt works at Electronic Arts and she says that there are lots of high-tech type jobs around, and of course there's the whole nursing and doctor shortage.

(And I think it's spelled "tuque", but I could be wrong. In french it's "toque").

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popechuck
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posted September 28, 2001 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popechuck   Click Here to Email popechuck     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks all! As for field, I'm majoring Business, leaning towards accounting.
I think I'm good for climate. I'm not ready for metric though. And what is back-bacon?

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Wraith
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posted September 28, 2001 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wraith   Click Here to Email Wraith     Edit/Delete Message
Metric is really easy if you have 10 of something you can add on a prefix. For instance, 1000 sheep = 1 kilosheep. Business you can do just about anywhere.

-Wraith

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Sarcasma
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posted September 28, 2001 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sarcasma   Click Here to Email Sarcasma     Edit/Delete Message
Accounting? Well, the financial field of course exists in every city, but Toronto is the financial capital of the country. There are probably more jobs at every level and in every position here, no matter what the market is like.

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Jesse Dangerously
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posted September 28, 2001 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jesse Dangerously   Click Here to Email Jesse Dangerously     Edit/Delete Message
HERSHEY KITKATS!?

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Raven
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posted September 28, 2001 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raven   Click Here to Email Raven     Edit/Delete Message
I LOVE CANADA!!! I was in Ottowa on business a while back and I just loved it there. Course I wasn't prepared with the proper weight of coat but that's neither here nor there. Ottowa was beautiful.

I got there just in time for the trucker strike if any of y'all are familiar with that, they blocked all but one lane of traffic on the bridges. I got to see the Parliment Building tons of times as I got lost trying to find my hotel.

I got totally wasted in some college bar there. I can't remember the name now. I had my first Schwarma (sp), I tried Poutin in Quebec, I went to Montreal and was treated rudely by a counter person for being American, I learned a about Loonies and enclosed ATM machines. By the time I left all my sentences ended on an upswing and I said eh? all the time

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Eggy Toast
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posted September 28, 2001 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eggy Toast   Click Here to Email Eggy Toast     Edit/Delete Message
Surely you've heard of the Canada Conspiracy. I mean, they're this huge land mass looming directly over the US. And they have YAKS.

But really. You can't deny that the candy in Canada is just spectacular.

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Wraith
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posted September 28, 2001 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wraith   Click Here to Email Wraith     Edit/Delete Message
We have yaks? Why wasn't I informed of this? I demand to see the manager. I want a yak.

-Wraith

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Sarcasma
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posted September 28, 2001 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sarcasma   Click Here to Email Sarcasma     Edit/Delete Message
If I could convince my housemates to drink yak milk, we could get a yak, and get the milk straight out of the yak every morning, and that, I'm thinking, would be easier than attempting to practice the overly elusive art of bag fu(tm Hisao).

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madjad
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posted September 28, 2001 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madjad   Click Here to Email madjad     Edit/Delete Message
Not to mention the fact that if you like mountain biking or skiing, clean air, clean water and breath-taking scenery, then you would love Alberta or the interior of B.C.

If you hate snow or are too wimpy to take a little cold, don't bother.

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Eggy Toast
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posted September 28, 2001 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eggy Toast   Click Here to Email Eggy Toast     Edit/Delete Message
I vacationed up in Canada, and, besides the tax, I think I could dig it up there. I'm in Minneapolis right now, so I'm definitely "winter-hardened."

And yeah, yaks. The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen. You'd have to have yaks to have yaksmen.

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Enjinno9
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posted September 28, 2001 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enjinno9   Click Here to Email Enjinno9     Edit/Delete Message
I love winter! I could be pretty much at home in Canada...right now I'm living in Maine, and it doesn't get cold enough or snow enough or ice enough up here.
If I went to Canada, whenever I got cold I could wrap myself in yak fur.
Hmmm, new Canadian enterprise...Rent-a-Yak?
They even pick you up! moooo....

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ThePet
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posted September 28, 2001 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePet   Click Here to Email ThePet     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
HERSHEY KITKATS!?

Yea, KitKats in the US are made by Hershey.

I bought some orange flavored kit kats today, they are VERY good!

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Eggy Toast
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posted September 28, 2001 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eggy Toast   Click Here to Email Eggy Toast     Edit/Delete Message
Most everything in the US is made by either Hersheys or Mars. The only Cadbury products are those damn eggs.

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Y2Karen
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posted September 28, 2001 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Y2Karen   Click Here to Email Y2Karen     Edit/Delete Message
Cadbury seriously needs to get its arse over to the States. I can get Maltesers, Flake and Lion bars at a grocery store down the street, but the Cadbury stuff that Treasure sent me was soooo delicious.

By the way, I wrote "don't call them Newfies" under the Newfoundland entry in my AP stylebook tonight. (It happened to be open to that page, and I seized the opportunity.) Someone years from now will pick up this copy of the APSB and wonder just what the hell that's doing in there.

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Jesse Dangerously
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posted September 29, 2001 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jesse Dangerously   Click Here to Email Jesse Dangerously     Edit/Delete Message
Klaatu> Toque it is. Writing it "tuque" is ugly as hell. ^_^

chuck> Metric is the easiest thing in the world. It's so easy that most of the population feels kind of intellectually insulted by it, and just uses old english anyway. Like we do use meters and kilometers, and that's easy, but if you think I'm going to describe myself as 184 centimeters instead of six foot two, you're mad. Makes me sound like average rainfall for the weekend or something. (and I was born here)

Back bacon is what you know as Canadian bacon, silly. If you didn't know that, how did you know to ask about it? Clever dick!

Eggy> Our yaks are strictly import.... just like kilts and our royalty, for that matter.

Also, I know it LOOKS like we're directly above the USA on a map, but the truth is that we're right beside you, to the North. You see, it's conventional for maps to display north as "up". One way to remember that this is not literal is by laying your map down flat when you read it.

p.s. We're also twice your size. Boo!

madjad> Ah yes, Alberta... Canada's south. It's also our repository of cowboys and right wing politics. I hope the electric fence holds.

Pet> Orange kitkats would be okay. Hershey kitkats is questionable to begin with, though. Hershey's general use chocolate is pretty substandard (although this could also be a Canada thing). The delicious Cadbury's chocolate is what makes Kitkats so great... although to be honest, they even tasted a tiny bit better when they were made by Rowntree, which as far as I can tell just doesn't exist anymore.

Y2K> My influence is immortal~!

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popechuck
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posted September 29, 2001 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popechuck   Click Here to Email popechuck     Edit/Delete Message
All my knowledge of Canada, to include a substance known as Back-bacon, comes from old SCTV episodes. Actually, I have a fairly strong grasp of metric from both electronic and military use. How much of a need for French would I have? I imagine it's a regional issue... Also would most businesses there accept a US college degree without prejudice? More later, I'm off to peruse 2nd hand stores.

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Hallam
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posted September 29, 2001 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hallam   Click Here to Email Hallam     Edit/Delete Message
Jesse, Kit Kat is a product of Societe des Produits Nestle SA. Anything Rowntree or Mackintosh is part of Nestlé There is no way that Kit Kats can be made with Cadbury chocolate in any part of the world.

In the USA, Hershey have a licensing agreement with Produits Nestlé, so they distribute the Kit Kat brand. They also have an agreement with Cadbury Schweppes to distribute Cadbury confectionery.

In Canada, Kit Kats are distributed by Nestlé Canada.

Thank you for tuning in to FMCG Five Minutes, which is a product of the Brunching Shuttlecocks Bulletin Board.

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Jesse Dangerously
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posted September 29, 2001 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jesse Dangerously   Click Here to Email Jesse Dangerously     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, you're real smart, Hallam. Bravo. But can you argue with THIS!?

*reveals that self is wearing a suit of dynamite*

*collapses rather helplessly into malicious laughter*

(I was just going with the flow, man! I knew they were Nestlé! I KNEW THEY WERE NESTLÉ!

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Fear Factory
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posted September 30, 2001 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fear Factory   Click Here to Email Fear Factory     Edit/Delete Message
Canada Has Trees!

But nestle sucks

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madjad
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posted September 30, 2001 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madjad   Click Here to Email madjad     Edit/Delete Message
Jesse - Yes, there are a lot of conservatives in Alberta, but I must point out that I never encountered gender prejudice of the kind that will prevent you from getting a job, or keeping a job while growing up out there for 24 years. Within days of arriving in Ontario, I found plenty of it.

In Alberta, you know exactly where you are with people, because they are up front with you - even though they are sometimes pretty wacky in their opinions. People also tend to help each other out more. If you're in trouble, you can usually find someone to look out for you.

In Ontario, there are a lot of glass walls that you can't see, but you sure feel when you run into them head first. I thought the old boys club was a joke until I ended up out here!

I've never been out to the maritimes, but I think its more similar to Alberta than you want to know! (in a good way.)

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Angel Fish
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posted September 30, 2001 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Angel Fish   Click Here to Email Angel Fish     Edit/Delete Message
My dad once told me that Canada has more lakes than people.
If it's true, that's a good enough reason to move there, if you ask me, which you did.

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Jesse Dangerously
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posted October 01, 2001 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jesse Dangerously   Click Here to Email Jesse Dangerously     Edit/Delete Message
madj> Yeah, I can see that. It seems to me that discrimination is more likely found where people are scrambling to get ahead, than where they're simply conservative.

My father's family is from Alberta. All good folk (although some are alarmingly Baptist... but hey big deal right?).

The maritimes probably shares with Alberta the upside of a relatively sparse population. Less backbiting and things.

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