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daybreaker
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posted July 29, 2001 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daybreaker   Click Here to Email daybreaker     Edit/Delete Message
My friends and I have proven conclusively that the reason two wrongs don't make a right is because you're leaving out an extra wrong!

Lets begin:
wrong is the opposite of right
left is the opposite of right
therefore it can be reasonably assumed that left = wrong.

And, we all know that three lefts is a right.

So.
3 lefts = 1 right
3 lefts = 3 wrongs
3 wrongs = 1 right

And there you go. Two wrongs dont make a right, because THREE wrongs make a right.

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twitching_ticky
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posted July 29, 2001 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for twitching_ticky   Click Here to Email twitching_ticky     Edit/Delete Message
*sits in awed silence*

*slowly begins to applaud*

on the one hand, i'm incredibly impressed. on the other, i'm amazingly afraid.

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Lord Cavity
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posted July 30, 2001 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lord Cavity   Click Here to Email Lord Cavity     Edit/Delete Message
But it's further back than the right it would have been if you'd never taken any wrong/left turns in the first place.

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daybreaker
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posted July 30, 2001 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daybreaker   Click Here to Email daybreaker     Edit/Delete Message
Unless youre standing still. Turn left three times at a standstill, and you'll be facing in the same direction if you had just turned right...

Maybe 3 wrongs only equals a right if you're not moving?

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Hallam
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posted July 30, 2001 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hallam   Click Here to Email Hallam     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting...

So how could one be sure that one was not moving relative to the frame of reference in which right and wrong are contained?

I suppose a fundamentalist Christian could hold a Bible in his/her hand. The Bible, being the frame of reference in which right and wrong are contained, would not be moving relative to the Christian.

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ThePet
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posted July 30, 2001 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePet   Click Here to Email ThePet     Edit/Delete Message
Once you make one wrong you might as well just go ahead and stay still and do two more wrongs.

If you move, then you're going to have to do 3 more wrongs to get back to the begining, then do a right.

1 wrong and 1 right would just get you lost.

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Jesse Dangerously
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posted July 30, 2001 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jesse Dangerously   Click Here to Email Jesse Dangerously     Edit/Delete Message
This only works if your lefts and wrongs all add up to 270º when you've finished.

Your mileage... I hate to say this... may vary.

^_^

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daybreaker
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posted July 30, 2001 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daybreaker   Click Here to Email daybreaker     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm... also, would one wrong and 2 lefts be just as good?

Or do two wrongs and one left make a right?

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Bombadil
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posted July 30, 2001 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bombadil   Click Here to Email Bombadil     Edit/Delete Message
So according to Jesse, and I think he has a point here, three lefts make a right but only if each left is right-angled.

So three wrongs make a right but only if each wrong is successively perpendicular, along a plane, to the preceeding wrong.

Or in other words, three wrongs make a right, but especially when each wrong is a right at an airport.

My brain is full, can I go home now?

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Bombadil
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posted July 30, 2001 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bombadil   Click Here to Email Bombadil     Edit/Delete Message
Also, do three rights make a wrong?

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daybreaker
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posted July 30, 2001 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daybreaker   Click Here to Email daybreaker     Edit/Delete Message
Three rights DO make a wrong!

But only under the same conditions as three wrongs make a right. So if you plan on being nice to people, just stay away from the airport.

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ThePet
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posted July 30, 2001 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePet   Click Here to Email ThePet     Edit/Delete Message
So... Let's say I'm going 30 over the speed limit... Driving on the wrong side of the road... and running red lights...

This is all bad unless it's by an airport?

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daybreaker
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posted July 30, 2001 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daybreaker   Click Here to Email daybreaker     Edit/Delete Message
Apparently.... someone brought up an airport. I dont know why. All good scientific theories have constants, though.

Maybe this theory's constant is the Airport
constant (or §, which is the symbol for the Airport constant).

So there you have it. 3 wrongs + § = 1 right

Although I think § needs to equal "standing still"

maybe § = airport + standing still

Which, Pet, would mean it IS wrong to do that stuff, because despite being at an airport, you're not standing still.

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Bombadil
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posted July 30, 2001 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bombadil   Click Here to Email Bombadil     Edit/Delete Message
Ah, my mistake was in thinking the proof was obvious. This is why I am such a poor scientist. Let me clarify. First I noted that...

quote:
So three wrongs make a right but only if each wrong is successively perpendicular, along a plane, to the preceeding wrong.

Emphasis added here, because my next statement was...

quote:
Or in other words, three wrongs make a right, but especially when each wrong is a right at an airport.

Well... where would you go if you were looking for planes?

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cheezdanish
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posted July 30, 2001 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cheezdanish   Click Here to Email cheezdanish     Edit/Delete Message
To the airport.

Oh, wait this is one of those trick questions, innit? This is going to turn out to be a "Let me delve into your psyche" kinda things, huh? Well, let me tell you something, buster! This egg's not for scrambling, you hear me?

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Mara's Revenge
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posted July 30, 2001 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mara's Revenge   Click Here to Email Mara's Revenge     Edit/Delete Message
Pete, I love the English Language.

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ThePet
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posted July 30, 2001 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePet   Click Here to Email ThePet     Edit/Delete Message
*dies*

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DaveInACar
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posted July 30, 2001 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaveInACar   Click Here to Email DaveInACar     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
§ = airport + standing still

I think § should just equal an airport, because airports never move. Standing still is redundant.

§ = airport.

Wait a minute, what if you're on an aircraft carrier?

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Spifferito
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posted July 30, 2001 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spifferito   Click Here to Email Spifferito     Edit/Delete Message
It would have to be a stationary aircraft carrier.

Which brings to mind. Must your stillness be relative to your wrongs? If you commit wrongs which are tossed into the ocean (perhaps *from* the aircraft carrier), then even if you're not moving, would it still count as being moved. Or likewise, if you and your wrongs are together on a moving carrier, are they really moving at all?

Of course, to be along a plane you could also be on top of or inside one which brings about the same questions of relativity. Must the entire plane turn in directions, or simply you inside it.

Would a helicopter count. That would be more convenient.

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genuine artificial
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posted July 30, 2001 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for genuine artificial   Click Here to Email genuine artificial     Edit/Delete Message
And then you can factor in the fact that you're automatically moving, due to the rotations of the earth and the galaxy and possibly the expansion of the universe. (Does that affect our solar system? Probably, I think.)

Or is it only relative motion that counts?

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daybreaker
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posted July 31, 2001 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daybreaker   Click Here to Email daybreaker     Edit/Delete Message
I think you have to be standing still relative to yourself. Because that's the only way 3 lefts (or wrongs) equals a right.

Because if you're walking, and take 3 lefts, you're not quite in the same place you would have been had you just taken a right.

Whereas if youre standing still, and just turn left 3 times, you're facing the same direction as you would be if you had just turned right.

So, you have to be stationary relative to yourself. You could be in a Tilt-A-Whirl, and as long as you just actually sit there, you can commit 3 wrongs and be right.

So it doesnt matter if you're on an aircraft carrier or in a helicopter... As long as you stand still for the love of Pete!

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Hallam
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posted July 31, 2001 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hallam   Click Here to Email Hallam     Edit/Delete Message
You have to be standing still relative to your moral framework. I've been through all this already.

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ThePet
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posted July 31, 2001 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePet   Click Here to Email ThePet     Edit/Delete Message
Does it matter if the aircraft carrier is moving?

An Airport has planes
An Aircraft carrier has planes

An airport = an aircraft carrier.

It's the same thing.

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Kailet
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posted July 31, 2001 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kailet   Click Here to Email Kailet     Edit/Delete Message
This thread is the first thing I thought of when this guy had left irc this morning, so I thought I'd come and post his logic.

* Thomas takes it upon himself to keep the conversation going.
Thomas> So... how are you today, Thomas?
Thomas> Oh, I'm fine thanks Thomas. You?
Thomas> The same, pretty much.
Thomas> It was to be expected, I suppose.
Thomas> Too true.
Thomas> After all, we ARE the same person.
Thomas> You may be, I'm not.
Thomas> What?
Thomas> I'm not the same person as you.
Thomas> Yes you are.
Thomas> No, you're the same person as me, I'm not the same as you.
Thomas> It doesn't work that way...
* Thomas sighs
Thomas> Look I'll explain it later, okay?
Thomas> So that would make us... one and a half people?
Thomas> No, just the one.
Thomas> But you said
Thomas> Look!
Thomas> There is one person, and it is me.
Thomas> You are ALSO me.
Thomas> Got it?
Thomas> If I am you, you are me!
Thomas> Not necessarily
Thomas> It's just logic!
Thomas> Oh is it?
Thomas> Yes, if a = b, b = a
Thomas> Heh, no!
Thomas> Yes.
Thomas> No. 5 cents = coin, therefore coin = 5 cents, is that what you're saying?
Thomas> Yes.
Thomas> That's just plain not true.
* Kailet raises an eyebrow at Thomas
Thomas> So? It's more interesting.
Thomas> ...You're right!
Thomas> Oh, someone else is here!
* Thomas merges back into one person.

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Thomas> Okay
Thomas> Now, you were saying that everything equalled everything else?
Thomas> Yep. I call it Banana Logic
Thomas> An apt name indeed
Thomas> Want me to prove something with it?
Thomas> Okay, here goes:
Thomas> In the car on the way to school, my brother said to me:
Thomas> I'm only taking up this much space, but you're taking up that much!
Thomas> The difference between his hand motions was about 10 cm.
Thomas> The difference between "this" and "that" is 2 letters
Thomas> Therefore 2 letters = 10 cm, therefore a letter is 5 cm long.
Thomas> This means the entire alphabet is 1.3 metres in length
Thomas> The alphabet is all the letters.
Thomas> Numbers are important as letters
Thomas> Therefore all the numbers are also 1.3 metres, so an individual number is 13 cm long
Thomas> But:
Thomas> If it was NOT 13 cm, it would be something else
Thomas> say... 20 cm
Thomas> However, it is not 20 cm
Thomas> therefore 20 cm is false when applied to character lengths
Thomas> ie, it does not exist
Thomas> 20 cm = four letters
Thomas> Therefore, no words of four letters in length actually exist!
Thomas> *pant*
* Thomas bows
Kailet> (you either have way too much free time on your hands to think this all up or...no, that's the only explanation I can think of)
Thomas> It's the right one

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Stranger than Fishing
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posted July 31, 2001 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stranger than Fishing   Click Here to Email Stranger than Fishing     Edit/Delete Message
*picks up brain*

*reinserts it up left nostril*

Woah, that was painful.

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Jesse Dangerously
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posted July 31, 2001 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jesse Dangerously   Click Here to Email Jesse Dangerously     Edit/Delete Message
Snort. Everyone always assumes that an equation moves from left to right, like writing on a page. That's not correct, and that's where Thomas' logic falls through. a=b goes BOTH directions - you cannot say that 5 cents EQUALS a coin if a coin does not EQUAL five sents. "EQUALS" and "IS" are by no means synonymous.

Saying that one thing equals another is more like saying "a rose(a) is a rose(b) is a rose(a)"

ALLLLLSO an airport and an aircraft carrier are nothing alike. One is for average joe consumers, and the other is military. The difference should be immediately obvious.

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ThePet
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posted July 31, 2001 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePet   Click Here to Email ThePet     Edit/Delete Message
Jesse == logical
logical == ruins all our fun

Jesse == ruins all our fun

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Jesse Dangerously
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posted July 31, 2001 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jesse Dangerously   Click Here to Email Jesse Dangerously     Edit/Delete Message
BWAAARHARHARHAR!

*disappears in burst of unholy flame and ash*

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daybreaker
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posted July 31, 2001 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daybreaker   Click Here to Email daybreaker     Edit/Delete Message
See, I call this whole conversation "furry logic" (because 'fuzzy logic' was already taken)

It all stems from logic that seems true at first but isnt really. But thats why it's in MNSBS, and not WaxI. Had I definitely proven scientifically, without a doubt that 3 wrongs makes a right, do you think I'd be here, and not, say, in Switzerland receiving lots of money?

So next time someone says to you, "What? Do you think 2 wrongs make a right, or something?" you can say, with the power of furry logic behind you, "No, 3 do!"

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