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Topic: Rating the Ratings.
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Stranger than Fishing
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posted June 15, 2001 01:13 AM
  
A+: Numero Uno. The pick of the crop, the best of the bunch. You've got to love it for it's sheer eliteness. AA: Bah, I'm not a fan of this grade. It gives people a chance to unneccesarily gloat over their 'top mark' whilst you sit in the corner sobbing over your D grade paper. D B: A good grade but severely unappreciated. a B grade is still 'smarter than the average bear' but people will strive to reach for it's superior, 'A'. Fools. B+ C: God i hate this one. The mediator, the middle man, the diet coke of grades. More average than Mr McAverage of Average land trying to be normal. However, if it went away then a lot of ratings would be left feeling very silly. for this it gets a C- D: I like D. It's got a certian rebel feel about it. It's not gonna take any of your shit but it's not gonna start anything either. Just bad enough to be good. B E: I'm not a great fan of any letter that has a Class B drug named after it. E just doesnt live up to it. To good to be consiedered an F to bad to live up to a D. If i was E I'd seriously think about ending it all now. The only reason this doesn't get an E is because of the blatant irony involved. D-- F: The bad man of the rating system. However, it is hardly ever used and thus I find it hard to give it any respect. But because it was once used to describe Scrappy Doo to such perfection it gets a C- ------------------
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Michelle Marie
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posted June 15, 2001 01:12 PM
Es are actual ratings? Either I haven't been paying attention to how report cards actually work or I have been lied to my entire life. I need answers, God. Answers. Stranger than Fishing, I give YOU a A+ for thinking of something so creative. Rating uh, rating letters must've been a bit confusing..... ------------------
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Lord Cavity
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posted June 15, 2001 02:14 PM
Es may be a British thing. I'm no expert on the American system, but I've gained the impression that it has nothing between D- and F.IP: Logged |
pecos
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posted June 15, 2001 04:20 PM
In 1st through 3rd grades, we used a separate grading system from the rest of the school (it was a K thru 8 Catholic school). I cannot imagine why this was done. The system went like this:E - Excellent - same as A
G - Good - same as B
S - Satisfactory - same as C
U - Unsatisfactory - same as D
P - Poor - Same as F After migrating to the A-B-C-D-F, we asked what happed to E, and the teacher explained that E was missing because the younger kids used it as A. Which made no sense at all. Even later in my scholastic life, they added an "Effort Role" in addition to the "Honor Roll" for kids who tried really, really hard but didn't make the honor roll. On our report cards, next to math and social studies and the rest, they had line for "Effort" and you could get an "E" for Effort or a "U" for Unsatisfactory. More confusion! Plus all the kids who got an "E" for Effort went on a special movie field trip, which was awful for the two or three total kids in every class that couldn't manage to even fake enough effort for an "E." I'm sure many to this day are still wounded from missing "An American Tale" at the mall theater. Wow, this went way deeper than I expected. This concludes my rambling on the uses of "E" as a grade in the Catholic school system I attended.
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Edited to give each and every one of you an "E" for Effort[This message has been edited by pecos (edited June 15, 2001).] and once again... [This message has been edited by pecos (edited June 21, 2001).] IP: Logged |
Sandrylene
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posted June 15, 2001 04:58 PM
in my college they stuck the e back in. i have no idea what the difference is between that and an f, though. i think both mean that you get no credit for the course. *shrug*IP: Logged |
Spifferito
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posted June 15, 2001 05:35 PM
But you don't get credit for D's either."You got an E for egnorance." IP: Logged |
Sandrylene
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posted June 15, 2001 05:56 PM
umm, spiff?
yes, i damned well do.
i just got one in one of the courses required for my major.  IP: Logged |
Fast Learner
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posted June 15, 2001 06:18 PM
There's a reason D's are worth 1.0 points.IP: Logged |
Acsumama
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posted June 15, 2001 07:14 PM
At my high school E meant you failed, but you could make up the class in summer school. If you got an F you had to completely retake the class.IP: Logged |
Shep
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posted June 15, 2001 07:33 PM
I always thought it was "F" because F stood for "failure". All the others were arbitary letters, "A" being first alphabetically and therefore most deserving of the excellence designation. My high school used a percentage system anyways.Anyway, here's how they assign grade points at my college: A 4.0 A- 3.7 B+ 3.3 B 3.0 B- 2.7 C+ 2.3
C 2.0 C- 1.7 D+ 1.3 D 1.0 D- 0.7 F 0.0 [This message has been edited by Shep (edited June 15, 2001).] IP: Logged |
Michelle Marie
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posted June 16, 2001 12:41 PM
E is such a confusing letter I propose we murder it.------------------
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I_like_cheese
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posted June 16, 2001 03:52 PM
Don't hurt my E! Maybe as a grade it's confusing, but the letter itself rules! After all, who can turn a man into a mane? Who can turn a plan into a plane?
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Spifferito
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posted June 16, 2001 04:56 PM
But, E is the most commonly used letter in the Eglish language!Letter whore. IP: Logged |
Spifferito
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posted June 16, 2001 04:59 PM
Oh, and well, we don't pass with D's.(Oh, and the E for ignorance was not directed at Sandry. Just a quote. Can't remember by who, though.) What? Ok, I *could* have combined these posts with an edit, but that would have been unatractive, bothersome, post-witholding, and you would never know that I got all of those bolds in the last post without a single mishap. So there. IP: Logged |
asd109
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posted June 16, 2001 05:19 PM
I would just like to add that my public elementary school used a system similar to Pecos'. Except we also had an F for fair. I forget if it came after or before satisfactory though.In college we got credit for a D, but you needed a C in order to progress to the next class. IP: Logged |
Cevven
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posted June 16, 2001 10:25 PM
Well, that's very true Spiff, you did nail all of those bolds. However, the reference to the Eglish language lost me.In my school D's pass and can be used to progress to higher levels, however you can only have a limited number for your major to count. Not to mention the fact that the only reason prerequisites are listed is so that the professor can use them as an excuse for a student doing poorly in a class. As for the much maligned E, when, in elementary school I demanded to know why there was no E in the grading scale my teacher told me that it was to prevent students like myself from believing that it stood for excellence. Tough love. Here's to hoping that I didn't make any small errors, for then I would look quite the fool. An april's fool as it were. Or not. IP: Logged |
IndigoBoy
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posted June 18, 2001 07:24 AM
My college actually issued E's. Their explanation:E = failure
F = bad failure Go figure. I can just see a person receiving such a grade trying to explain this to a potential employer: "Yes, i did fail, but not *badly*!" IP: Logged |
megalita
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posted June 19, 2001 01:26 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, spiff, but while you nailed all the bolds, you misspelled "English".IP: Logged |
Mara
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posted June 19, 2001 02:47 PM
Weerie. At my high school we don't even have Ds. It's:A - 90-100 - Normal. Keep it up.
B - 80-89 - Just a little behind. Work harder.
C - 70-79 - You turd. We're only passing you because the state told us to.
F - 69 and under - Hah! Now the state says we can keep you here! Face our wrath! It's as if the school board has forgotten that C is supposed to be average, dammit.
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tre
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posted June 19, 2001 02:52 PM
this isn't on topic, but it was up there ~points~ when y'all were discussing gpas.
.. you know what pisses me off? a friend of mine in college has the 90-100 A 80-89 B etc system. what the.. arhgl. he's in college. i stopped being able to get away with that system after elementary school. now that it's summer break i've copletely forgotten what my high school uses, but i'm pretty sure the cutoff for an A was 94%.well.
it bugs me. - t. IP: Logged |
Gothic-Catholic
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posted June 20, 2001 07:48 PM
I've got an even better one for ya. In MY school, most classes are graded as follows:A 100-93
B 92-85
C 84-75
D 74-70
F 69 and under (Note: it is extremely difficult to procure a "D," even when trying. It's only four points wide!) However, Honors classes are graded in this manner: A 100-90
B 89-80
C 79-70
F 69 and under Hello? Hello?!? Not only is it more probable to excel (even with strengthened coursework), but I can't ever manage a "D." And the whole GPA system gets whacked when grades are entered as letters instead of numbers. Advanced Placement (AP) classes are graded on the regular strata. Huh? Kill me now. I love the Acsumama. o/^ Baked or broiled or in a stew! o/^ ------------------
If you could put a slice of potatoe, and put it on the three of clubs, then pop 'em in a toaster, it'd be the Trinity. Like, GOD and stuff. [This message has been edited by Gothic-Catholic (edited June 20, 2001).] IP: Logged |
Stranger than Fishing
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posted June 21, 2001 01:30 AM
Hot damn, I really should have left out the EOver here in Egland we have to get x amount of points to get into University.
A - 10
B - 8
C - 6
D - 4
E - 2
F - 0 So E is a valid grade.
We also have n for 'near miss', and u for unassigned. If you get a u it means the examiner couldn't be bothered to finish marking your work cos it was so bad. IP: Logged |
Stehvelo
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posted June 21, 2001 02:21 AM
I had one of those for my Special English Lit - you had to get over B-grade on the A Level paper or they'd just bin the Special. I didn't get over B for A-Level EngLit, so I emigrated. I will not have my time wasted!------------------
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MixMasterMax
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posted June 21, 2001 05:20 AM
Law Exams in Germany are graded from 18-0, eighteen being the best grade. However, 9 is the real magic number, because only ten percent of a class make more than 9 points, and having 9 or more points makes you a near certain candidate for a very highly paid job. Nobody knows what to do with the 18-14 grades, they just live their pointless existence untill somebody will devise a sensilble grading system and put them out of their misery. D-(edited for wittyness. And you'll never find it!) [This message has been edited by MixMasterMax (edited June 21, 2001).] IP: Logged |
Angel Fish
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posted June 21, 2001 05:25 AM
I'd just like to mention that my English teacher at Secondary (High) school used Tolkien's runic system to mark our work.that is all. ------------------
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asd109
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posted June 21, 2001 06:39 AM
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a friend of mine in college has the 90-100 A 80-89 B etc system. what the.. arhgl. he's in college.
Wow, I can't remember more than one or two college classes that gave letter grades based on anything but a curve. If they had tried that in my science and engineering classes there would have been no As. IP: Logged |
tre
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posted June 21, 2001 10:02 AM
haha.. this entertained me when i first heard it, i'm gonna' share with you.in my uncle nathan's keyboarding class, they graded on a curve. well, guess what; the entire class hated him, and with good reason. he typed 120 words a minute. haha. - t. IP: Logged |
RedTwo
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posted June 21, 2001 10:17 AM
That's called "blowing the curve", and it's a favorite pastime of people who are too smart for their own damn good. I've done it a couple of times. Blowing the curve gets an A for how great it feels to be the only passing grade in the class, but getting the shit beaten out of you for forcing everyone else to retake the course is a big ol' F. Duh.------------------
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Acsumama
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posted June 21, 2001 10:45 AM
I don't think I've ever had a class that was graded on a curve. I guess they figure it's not necessary in social sciences (hooray for taking the two easiest majors at my school!).IP: Logged |
asd109
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posted June 21, 2001 11:03 AM
Yeah, but that's the stupid kind of curve to use. My profs tended to use distributions to assign grades. Not a standard bell curve (10% A, 20% B, 40% C, 20% D, 10% F) but a variation on that theme. Or they found the mean/median and made that a C (or C+ or B- or whatever depending on the professor and the level of the class. Cause by the time you get to be in senior level engineering classes the class average shouldn't be a C anymore) and adjusted other grades accordingly based on natural breaks in the distribution.Grading without a curve when one is needed: F
Grading with a crappy curve: C
Grading with a fair and reasonable curve B
Being smart enough that you get a good grade regardless of the system: A (if it's me, D if it's someone who gloats). It's much fairer really. IP: Logged |
Clickie
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posted June 21, 2001 11:52 AM
At Cal, the molecular and cell biology (MCB) major graded everything on a straight curve. Now, MCB is also the preferred major of overachieving premeds. This means that if you're only willing to put in a reasonable amount of work into the class, you're pretty much guaranteed nothing higher than a B. One class I was in that was in the MCB major had a final that ended up marking 80-87 or so as a C. That's unreasonable, IMO. If you think it's nasty when someone blows the curve, try being in classes where a good 10-20% of the class will always blow the curve.I never saw the point in trying harder than that, as it was near-impossible to achieve an A. I'd have to do nothing but study, and I wasn't willing to do that. On the other hand, my Computer Science classes were much more reasonable, grading more or less on the "Grading with a fair and reasonable curve" way of grading. CS is hard enough without making everyone kill themselves to overachieve on their projects. I ended up with a reasonable average in school, thanks to the CS and Plant Biology systems of grading, and no thanks to my MCB classes. Arg. More notes on my personal experiences with grading: in high school and below, we had the 90-100=A, 80-89=B, 70-79=C, anything else is F system. In college, we had D, which got you a 1.0, but didn't let you pass the class. I've never experienced the glory that is the grading letter E. IP: Logged |
Mara
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posted June 21, 2001 09:11 PM
Heh. My dad keeps telling me about a college professor that he had. This professor did not give out As because that meant, in his mind, that the student was as smart as he was.Y'all have some weird curving going on. What they do here is to take the highest grade, make that a 100, then add points to everybody's grade. So if the highest grade on a test or whatever was a 93, then everyone gets 7 points. [edited with the power of Pine-Sol][This message has been edited by Mara (edited June 21, 2001).] IP: Logged |
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posted June 22, 2001 02:10 PM
Since it seems that only parochial, non-US, and colleges use the E system, my elementary school actually did have the E, S, U, and so on. Except kindergarten. I can't remember what happened there, seeing that I only stayed for one semester until they realized I didn't have ESP and could just read. Oh well. we were gradually introduced to the ABC grades, except for 4th grade where our weird old teacher did 4.0 and such. But since my beloved Algebra IA class is full of overachievers with waaay too much time on their hands, the curve for 4th quarter was set at 102.9 something and my 86% turned out to be a B-. I could have killed someone. ------------------
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Mara
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posted July 19, 2001 03:33 PM
*"bit-of-a-bump" setting* quote:
I'd just like to mention that my English teacher at Secondary (High) school used Tolkien's runic system to mark our work.
And how exactly would that work? Sounds better than the 'stamp, upside-down stamp, no stamp' system my English teacher used.IP: Logged |
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