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Arwon
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posted July 02, 2001 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arwon   Click Here to Email Arwon     Edit/Delete Message
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Apatheist. Someone coined the term for me in IRC (I think it might have been Toon). Basically, religion is no longer a part of my life. I was christened and so technically, in the eyes of the government and in the eyes of my father, and my grandparents, I'm Christian. But I don't go to church (except to sing in choir concerts for school at Christmas). My grandparents still go to church. I think my dad does sometimes. I don't. I don't care about God. I don't care if God, or gods, or goddesses, or nothing, or anything exist. I am just me, and I am going through my life, relying on me and other people.

You've just summed up my take on religion perfectly. "Apathiest"... I like it.
However, for me, I think there will probably come a day when I am jolted into either actively having faith in something, or actively deciding religion is all poppycock.

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Toon
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posted July 02, 2001 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Toon   Click Here to Email Toon     Edit/Delete Message
DramaShrink, the only reason all three of us posted the same thing is 'cause we're all quoting Hillel...

*stands on one leg and grins*

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Purple Smurf
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posted July 02, 2001 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Purple Smurf   Click Here to Email Purple Smurf     Edit/Delete Message
Did anyone else but me think it was utterly appropriate that even Kailet's religion is cute?

- PS

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Beaudoin
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posted July 02, 2001 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beaudoin   Click Here to Email Beaudoin     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a Catholic, but have my own set of beliefs...

I believe that there is one God who no one can ever truly know. I believe that this God hears and responds to all forms of prayer, and so is manifested in all the various gods worshipped around the world. I believe that He lets all people into heaven, or whatever happens to us after death, and that our entry into heaven is a personal choice each one of us must make. I believe that being a good person on Earth should be the foremost goal of all people, and that is how God wants it.

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Mara
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posted July 02, 2001 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mara   Click Here to Email Mara     Edit/Delete Message
*Doesn't read the rest of the post, as ordered*

I believe in a higher power, but I hate calling it God. Too much trapping involved with that word. I'm not a historian, therefore I don't feel qualified to talk about Jesus. I hate ceremony and pomp as regards to the divine. To sum up, something is 'up there' that is avalable to hear your questions, pleas, or prayers, and that something just might do something about your situation. Kind of a Karma/"everything happens for a reason" philosophy.

This has been hard to accurately put into pithy phrases, but I try.


After reading the rest of the thread:
Erratic Assassin: You put that so much better than I did. You wanna start a church? ;-) (So JK.)
McDuff: All you need is love...
Palpz: Did you know that somewhere in Australia, they tried to get “Jedi” recognized as an actual religion? Don’t know if they succeesed or not.
Kailet: That was exactly what I was until my life started going in the toilet. See above for my ‘crutch’. I also turned to music and escapist fiction. I'm just trying to find good stuff to counteract the bad stuff.

[This message has been edited by Mara (edited July 02, 2001).]

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IsMaryann_WantsToBeGinger
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posted July 02, 2001 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IsMaryann_WantsToBeGinger   Click Here to Email IsMaryann_WantsToBeGinger     Edit/Delete Message
We are not alone. I'm climbing the mountain. My path might change, but I'm still climbing. So don't tell me how I'm climbing is wrong. Fini.

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Stranger than Fishing
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posted July 03, 2001 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stranger than Fishing   Click Here to Email Stranger than Fishing     Edit/Delete Message
what Kailet said.

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OpticBoom
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posted July 03, 2001 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OpticBoom   Click Here to Email OpticBoom     Edit/Delete Message
Toon-Harmonious-Dramashrink... this is odd, we have three Jews with one opinion...

isn't it supposed to be that when you put TWO jews in a room you get a three-way argument? How did we get THREE jews to agree?

I think two of you are plagirizing the third... now for the argument, heh heh heh!

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daybreaker
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posted July 03, 2001 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daybreaker   Click Here to Email daybreaker     Edit/Delete Message
Wow... my beliefs sound pretty close to Beaudoin's.

I believe that there is one all-powerful force, and that he presents himself (or herself...) to each culture in the way they have grown to accept him. Each culture has, over time, cultivated their own belief of this force, whether it be God or Allah, etc.

It's hard for me to explain this, and I usually wind up confusing people even more...In fact, Beaudoin's description of how he thinks God works is probably closer to what I believe than what I just said...

Everybody chooses what they believe in. I feel that there is no right or wrong choice, as long as you focus on living a good life. And living a good life seems to be the main idea of most religions, which is good. And by good life, I dont mean being rich and happy, I mean being nice to everyone else. Helping out whenever you can. Helping those who need it is a huge (if not the biggest) part of Christianity, although I noticed many people seem to forget that. Also compassion and understanding are very important, too. Although using this belief of God as the same god throughout all religions makes it very easy to be understanding.

[edited to say: Ok, so I read Beaudoin's post before starting my own, plus I went a teeeeny tiny bit over 25 words. Oh well.]

[This message has been edited by daybreaker (edited July 03, 2001).]

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DramaShrink
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posted July 03, 2001 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DramaShrink   Click Here to Email DramaShrink     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
the only reason all three of us posted the same thing is 'cause we're all quoting Hillel

Well, we all agree on that one, don't we?

And it's "the reason... is that", not "the reason... is 'cause," Madam English BA.

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Raven
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posted July 03, 2001 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raven   Click Here to Email Raven     Edit/Delete Message
Cheezdanish: I am actually frightened that you know of the BOB... That freaking video gave me nightmares for weeks and even now I can hear the horrible voices calling his name over and over again.... Oh the horror of the swirling tie dye.....

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Jesse Dangerously
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posted July 03, 2001 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jesse Dangerously   Click Here to Email Jesse Dangerously     Edit/Delete Message
Jesseism has two commandments.

(1) Thou shalt be nice!

(2) Thou shalt get fresh!

Jesseism has no meaningful essential creed. Jesseists just go with whatever assumptions look like they'll work best for everyone at any given time.

yeah... that's 25. ^_^

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Palpz
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posted July 03, 2001 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Palpz   Click Here to Email Palpz     Edit/Delete Message
Mara: Yes actually I did hear about that. Not only that, but so did about 11 of my friends when the Census came around here in Canada. I would have too, but we got the short version of the Census form.

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OpticBoom
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posted July 03, 2001 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OpticBoom   Click Here to Email OpticBoom     Edit/Delete Message
hey dramashrink, here's to grammar!

PTHUBBBBBTTTTTT!!!!!

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DarKrow
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posted July 03, 2001 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DarKrow   Click Here to Email DarKrow     Edit/Delete Message
Religion... who needs it? It's just indoctrination, morals, and mythology. A person should make their own moral standards.

18 words. Not bad.

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mr911
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posted July 04, 2001 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mr911   Click Here to Email mr911     Edit/Delete Message
Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.

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RedTwo
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posted July 09, 2001 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedTwo   Click Here to Email RedTwo     Edit/Delete Message
Kai - I remember Toon & I were both discussing with you at the time, but it could have been either of us that coined the word. I think the best bit about the term "apatheist" is that it was invented by either a devout Orthodox Jew or a devout Witness of Jehovah. It makes me smile just thinking about it.

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Beckuary
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posted July 09, 2001 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beckuary   Click Here to Email Beckuary     Edit/Delete Message
So I actually didn't read the others, so forgive me if the thread has now departed to talk about pig embryos or something like that.

All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Without Christ, no man can reach God. The Chick tract guy is the embodiment of all I'm trying to live to erase about Christianity. Love the sinner, hate the sin. God is love. It changes lives.

So 47 words. These things happen.

Now I can read the thread.

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Acsumama
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posted July 09, 2001 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Acsumama   Click Here to Email Acsumama     Edit/Delete Message
Now I want to talk about pig embryos. Whaddaya think: can a pig embryo go to heaven?

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Five Tons of Flax
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posted July 10, 2001 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Five Tons of Flax   Click Here to Email Five Tons of Flax     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry to burst the bubble, but the term "apatheist" has been in use for at least a few years. A friend of mine used it to describe himself 3 years ago, and I think I've seen it in things written before that.

Whatever, it fits. I don't believe in God in exactly the same manner that I don't believe in Unicorns.

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DaveInACar
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posted July 10, 2001 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaveInACar   Click Here to Email DaveInACar     Edit/Delete Message
Agnostic with elements of Tibetan Buddhist philosophy.

"Live, and let live. The aim of the game is to feel real good."

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EmberLeo
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posted July 10, 2001 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmberLeo     Edit/Delete Message
I was told *not* to read the thread first, which means I can actually reply during my lunch hour

Okay, Here goes:

I'm Pantheistic.

Everything; People, Animals, Plants, Planets, Stars, Black Holes, Galaxies, Minds, Hearts, Spirits, Gods, Energy... Is part of the Whole.

The Whole is Divine.
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That's 25 words
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Further ponderings:

The Whole may be semi-concious. I'd call it "God", but that confuses people who call entities like Odin, Athena, Kali, Jehova etc. God(s). Those Gods all exist too, one way or another.

Energy is conciously manipulable, with practice, and subconciously manipulable as a matter of course. Using it can be called Martial Arts, Magic, Psychic Powers, Reiki, Prayers, whatever you want. If it works, it works.

--Ember--

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EmberLeo
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posted July 10, 2001 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmberLeo     Edit/Delete Message
"Whatever, it fits. I don't believe in God in exactly the same manner that I don't believe in Unicorns."

That's really funny... I *do* believe in Gods in the exact same manner that I *do* believe in Unicorns.

My experience seems to indicate that they exist in some form, which is not physical to this plane.

I don't really know how to get to them myself yet, but I know enough other people who do, and have met/seen/felt enough weird things that I'm not willing to say that *anything* surely doesn't exist *somewhere*.

--Ember--

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McDuff
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posted July 10, 2001 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for McDuff   Click Here to Email McDuff     Edit/Delete Message
*applauds emberleo*

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RedTwo
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posted July 11, 2001 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedTwo   Click Here to Email RedTwo     Edit/Delete Message
Just because I've realized folks don't go back through the thread, I thought I'd mention that I added to my original post (back near the end of page 1) and I like that a lot better than what I posted the first time, so please check that out if you want to. Thanks.

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Kyla
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posted July 11, 2001 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyla   Click Here to Email Kyla     Edit/Delete Message
Maximize happiness. I believe simultaneously that spirituality works through psychological means and that external "gods" (interpret loosely) can effect change through the interconnectedness of everything.

P.S. The only law in Oz is "Be Good."
P.P.S. I'm not really an economist.

A less constrained version:
I choose to believe certain things because I find it useful, which is to say that either they make me happy directly, or indirectly by helping me in my interactions with everything. I think that it doesn't matter whether what I believe is true, but I'm willing to set aside old ides for new ones that work better. I often use pagan/wiccan forms of ritual, because I find that they work, and I think that a pantheon is a helpful way of conceptualizing the forces and occurences I encounter. I also likethe personalities of the old gods. I find a lot of wisdom in old taoist books, and many other places too. And finally, I don't find contradictions and ideological inconsistanciesto be as problematic as people make them out to be. There may actually be an objective reality, but none of us has any way of knowing what it is.

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Acsumama
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posted July 11, 2001 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Acsumama   Click Here to Email Acsumama     Edit/Delete Message
Kyla's back! Huzzah! And with a very good post as well.

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Angel Fish
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posted July 12, 2001 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Angel Fish   Click Here to Email Angel Fish     Edit/Delete Message
Doasyouwouldbedoneby; we are a social organism, nothing else makes sense.

Wow. I'm even within the limit without cheating and using 'The Waterbabies'

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Quinn The Eskimo
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posted July 14, 2001 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinn The Eskimo   Click Here to Email Quinn The Eskimo     Edit/Delete Message
Liberal Catholic. I believe that no man should force his beliefs on another, or damn someone to Hell. I'm not even sure if Hell exists. I don't know the criteria for getting into heaven, but I believe that it's there. Like most Catholics, I don't take the bible literally, it has way too many metaphors for that.

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bananatt
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posted July 15, 2001 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananatt     Edit/Delete Message
Procrastinatist: Think About It Tomorrow.

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